Khorne is quite right in stating the ethnicity of the Iranians. In the plural the masculine pronoun was *aw-ar men (which could include women when referring to mixed groups) and non-masculine *aw-ay others (women, other animates, or things). Who ever came from the West is being given the credit for introducing cattle and horses in India. Only accusative (*-ay, *-n), dative (*-[n]kk), and possibly locative can be reconstructed for Proto-Dravidian. [53] On the other hand, there is also evidence that Dravidians originated from the ASI-related populations.[54]. [107] In Dravidian-speaking South India, the concept of divine kingship led to the assumption of major roles by state and temple. The English trading community too, had their presence around 1600. Thus,every aspect of the human life, that is considered beneficial to the human society, was qualified by the word 'arya'. Culture In addition, adjectives precede the nouns they qualify, nouns carry postpositions and not prepositions, adverbs precede verbs, and auxiliaries follow the main verb. The debate over the Aryan-Dravidian Distinction: Aryan Invasion and Migration Theory: This theory which has been floated by the British has attributed to the Aryan- Dravidian distinction and has been always been contested by the political class. The Brahmins (7% of the Hindu population), Kshatriya and Vaishyas (23%) and the Shudras (70%), all had tasks allocated to them. The big Aryan-Dravidian debate: Inventing an invasion that The third century BCE onwards saw the development of many great empires in South India like Pandya, Chola, Pallava, Satavahana, Chalukya, Kakatiya and Rashtrakuta. The French Egyptologist, Jean Francois Champollion, armed with the long inscription in three scripts, one of them being known - Greek - he managed to decipher the hieroglyphic script of Egypt. Many of these primitive megaliths are NOT sepulchral but has been found to have been created with mathematical and astronomical perfection. Re. Dr Ambedkarji examined the Rigveda - supposedly the First Book of the Aryans as per Max Muller, written in 1000 BC. The final element (predicate) in a sentence can be verbal or nominal. The nose shows a wide range of variation, from fine to broad. The present population is over 1000 million. The corruption is an outright mismanagement of the nation's business. They destroyed the cities they entered and left the ruins to decay. As noted above, in most of the languages, adverbs of time and place carry case inflection like nouns but lack gender and number distinction. [114][115] Isanasivagurudeva paddhati is another text from the 9th century describing the art of building in India in south and central India. One day,working in the vineyard, he got very tired, had a few wine drinks, went to his tent and slept, naked. Das needs to clarify what he means by 'Aryanisation of India'. This led to the establishment of a series of Portuguese colonies along the western coasts of Karnataka and Kerala, including Mangalore. It was decided that the area south of the Vindhya would be suitable. The participants being the Jews, Christians Muslims and the Hindus, it was decided, with the agreement of more than 50 well known historians, that the Aryan Invasion Theory be called the Aryan Migration Theory. [85] Some of those for which Dravidian etymologies are certain include kulya "nest", kulpha "ankle", daa "stick", kla "slope", bila "hollow", khala "threshing floor". He collected all the possible different signs on the seals - separated them between simple signs and letters with additional signs. He was a law-maker, the Father of the Indian Constitution. Thus, there has to be some genetic relationships, however, the statement from the researchers was that, 'they could not discern the geographic origin of that population from their data' (India West). [51], Recent studies have shown that the proto-Dravidians were descendants of neolithic farmers, who are suggested to have migrated from the Zagros Mountains in modern-day Iran to northern South Asia some 10,000 years ago. These people were Home-less, made transit stops before entering India. The width, in some parts of the course of the river was so wide, that the name Sarasvati-Sindhaive Sagar has been in use in the scriptures. The finding of the horse bones at Harappa, nor the picture of the horse on the seals, were sufficient to the Indo-logists to accept the existence of horses in India. By innovating a feminine singular *aw-a she (female human), the South Dravidian languages thus restricted the meaning of *a-tu to it (nonhuman animate/thing). They are also found in large numbers in Middle East countries, the Americas and Australia. Phonological features of Dravidian languages, Historical development of Dravidian phonology, South-Central Dravidian phonological development, Central Dravidian phonological development. Thus, every European country was racing to justify that there's is the one, the provider of the Mother Tongue'. (Ref: Rigveda, Book ii, Hymn 41, Verses 16/17; Bk vii, 36/6; 95/1 to 6, 96/1). Mary Stanton & Albert Hyma in Streams of Civilization (1976) - They were nomads, lived of the meat of their herds and what loot they could gather from pillaged and conquered cities. The Sri Ranganathaswamy Temple located in Indian state of Tamil Nadu is often considered as the largest functioning Hindu temple in the world. [96] Sivan was also seen as the supreme God. The author misses out on the tribal factor for reasons better known to him. "[7] Krishnamurti further states that South Dravidian I (including pre-Tamil) and South Dravidian II (including pre-Telugu) split around the eleventh century BCE, with the other major branches splitting off at around the same time. Ritual worship was also given to kings. Apparently all the forms were in use dialectally in Proto-Dravidian. "[10] The most noteworthy scholar making such claims is Asko Parpola,[18] who did extensive research on the IVC-scripts. Every noun has an oblique stem in the singular and plural that is formed by the addition of a suffix (derived from Proto-Dravidian *i, *a, *tt, or *n or a combination of these, in addition to a zero suffix []) to which non-nominative case markers are added. [63], Shinde et al. The number words for 11 to 19, 21 to 29, and so on are formed by compounds of words for 10 or 20 followed by the words for 1 to 9e.g., *paHt-ontu 11 and *pat-i(n)- mu:ntu 13. Compounds meaning two-ten, three-ten, four-ten, for example, denote 2 10, 3 10, 4 10e.g., *iru-paHtu 20, *muH-paHtu 30, and *nal-paHtu 40. Proto-Dravidian *ntu 100 is the highest numeral reconstructed. Great Gurukuls were established in the South, and for that reason, the South is often addressed as Dravid-desh, and the teachers and the gurus as 'dravid' (dra - drasta and vid - vidya), a knower of knowledge. This was reflected in the demonstrative pronouns, which in the singular were masculine *aw-antu he (man) and non-masculine *a-tu other (meaning both woman and any nonhuman animate or thing). [45] Nowadays, Tamils, Malayalis, Telugus and Kannadigas make up around 20% of India's population. Evil forces. There are evidences that many rituals which may seem Hindu today has been loaned from a prior tribal source. This would explain that the color of the skin is not necessarily the uniting factor. A comprehensive description of Parpola's work until 1994 is given in his book Deciphering the Indus Script. (2019) conclude that ANI and ASI were formed in the 2nd millennium BCE. [122] Ancient literary works, such as the Cilappatikaram, describe a system of music. (10) The Santal and Bhuiya tribes both speak Mundari, whereas the Oraons speak a Dravidian language. Aryans and Dravidians View of historian P.T. Has the British rule anything to do with the creation of Aryans and Dravidians? To-date, as the proverb goes - Truth is one, lies are many - not a single story has turned out with any substance. Indian history has not yet been written by the original ionhabitants of India - the Dravidians. (2019) shows that the native South Asian genetic component is distinct from the Andamanese and thus that the Andamanese (Onge) are an imperfect and imprecise proxy for "ASI" ancestry in South Asians (there is difficulty detecting ASI ancestry in the North Indian Gujarati when the Andamanese Onge are used). Prakrit. [113], Mayamata and Manasara shilpa texts estimated to be in circulation by the 5th to 7th century AD, are guidebooks on the Dravidian style of Vastu Shastra design, construction, sculpture and joinery technique. [101][102] The Sangam landscape was classified into five categories, thinais, based on the mood, the season and the land. hunter-gatherers sharing a common root with the Andamanese); and Iranian hunter-gatherers who arrived in India before the advent of farming. It also mentions that the league of Tamil kingdoms had been in existence for 113 years by that time. South Asian Studies, 13(1), pp 8797. In the process of simplifying the system, the latter three suffixes have come to be used as common plural for both human and nonhuman nouns. The framers of the fiction of the Aryans still had some way to go. It was the people from outer world to come down and create this magical cities as the indigenous had no capacities. The final -n and -m represent singular and plural. ANSWER : Difference between Aryans and Dravidians as elucidated. of Education, to accept a major change, such as calling 'Aryan invasion' a migration into India. The Indo-Aryan languages occupy roughly the northern two thirds of the subcontinent. Some linguists explain this anomaly by arguing that Middle Indo-Aryan and New Indo-Aryan were built on a Dravidian substratum. Birbal's reaction was in response to the King's decision not to reward a person who stood the whole night in a cold water-pool, finding an excuse that a candle was burning in a far-away window, and that he was getting heat from that light! Rosetta Stone is a large slab of stone found at a village by the same name in Egypt. WebThe difference between the so-called Aryans of the north and Dravidians of the south is not a racial division. Oriental Institute, Maharaja Sayajirao University of Baroda. Vedic Sapt-Rishis going around the world with their troupe of helpers, or 20 tribes from the East, only 12 reached its destination, or the westward movements of the Jews, Christians, Parsis, Aghakhanis from persecution, as well as Greeks, Romans and the Chinese coming to Takshila and Nalanda, followed by the children of Japheth and Shem to rule, must have left behind some genetic imprint that can be matched with our friends from the West. Wouldn't you like to know that Indian cattle have HUMPS on their backs (ZEBU-BOS INDICUS), and the European cattle (Longhorn, Hereford, BOS TAURUS) have no humps on their backs! 1941), states that 'the first wave of Nordics believed to have passed into India somewhere about 1700 BC, others followed in succession'. The as-yet-unexplained alternation between long and short vowels in personal pronouns could be a consequence of a laryngeal *H in the reconstructed forms, including *yaH-n, *yaH-m, *taH-n, *taH-m, and so on. In this, they have failed miserably to locate a single European country that could provide the required qualifications - culture and language. [10] They may have been indigenous to the Indian subcontinent,[11][12][13] but origin in, or influence from, Western Asia have also been proposed. The gender-number-person categories of the subject phrase in a sentence are reflected as the final constituent of certain finite verbs, as demonstrated by Tamil avan1 va-nt-n2 (literally he1 come-past-person2) he1 came2. Malayalam has lost this agreement feature in finite verbs. Aryans dont constitute the people residing in Northern India only, it also includes now all the people who speak Indo-European languages. WebThe features of the people of this race are a broad head? [72], Linguist Asko Parpola writes that the Indus script and Harappan language are "most likely to have belonged to the Dravidian family". Thus, today, Aztec, Inca and Mayan civilizations are in name only. Rao's decipherment of the Indus script also proved that, the South Arabic and the Old Aramaic alphabets, as well as the Indian Brahmi, all are derived from the Indus script. Thus, by a simple stroke of the pen, the invasion by the Aryans (AIT) and ensuing destruction of property, killings of the indigenous, and imposition of slavery, all changed to peaceful migration and assimilation. Horses - Impressions upon thousands of SEALS have been found. Just as the Europeans were attracted by the word 'Arya' (nobleness), so were the Indians, as the word indicated the character and behavior of a person. I hope, there are many more like you and who also share. One should be proud of one's province and be respectful to the people of other provinces. The basic forms of numerals have neuter (others) agreement; a human suffix *-war or a derivative thereof is added to numeral roots when they classify the human category. Portuguese explorers like Vasco de Gama were motivated to expand mainly for the spice markets of Calicut (today called Kozhikode) in modern-day Kerala. gamaprmya of Ymuncrya, Issue 160 of Gaekwad's Oriental Series. Each of the Dravidian languages has developed several postpositions from independent words that indicate case meanings (e.g., near, up to, until, purpose, cause, above, below, by the side of). does not say aryans came from persia it says they came from that direction, please be extra accurate with this matter because persians use this little fault to prove themselves as aryans while they are very semitic, they even use pictures of iranian azeri turks to prove themselves as whites! The dark skinned people are the pioneers of civilizations. (2016) discern four major ancestries in mainland India, namely ANI, ASI, Ancestral Austro-Asiatic tribals (AAA) and Ancestral Tibeto-Burman (ATB). Examples are the Madisar, specific to Tamil Brahmin Community, and the Mundum Neriyathum. Aryans-North Indians are Sanscrit language based speakers and Dravidyans-south Indians are Tamil language based speakers. Both groups of these Indi The lungi is usually everyday dress, used for doing labour while dhoti is used for more formal occasions. Divide et Impera should be the principle of the Indian government. In this particular case, the horse was injured in the rib-cage, and the instructions are being given to the expert - vaidya, to treat the 34 ribs with care for its recovery. The Muni never returned! The historians treated Persia as one of the transit points to India. The reasons could be to retire a horse because of old age or due to some injury while serving his master. [9], The origins of the Dravidians are a "very complex subject of research and debate". South India is surrounded by sea on three sides, where as North India has always been more accessible to the adjoining countries, to and fro movement of the people was continuously taking place. [25] The present people of the Indian subcontinent, including the Dravidians, are of a mixed genetic origin and have ancestry from indigenous South Asian Hunter Gatherers, Neolithic west Asian farmers from Iran and Steppe Yamnaya pastoralists. These conquerors were interested in conquering parts in North India, dismantling the local cultures and pushing the indigenous Dravidian tribes of Dravidians towards thesouth. [109] The temples of the Sangam days, mainly of Madurai, seem to have had priestesses to the deity, which also appears predominantly as a goddess. The Modern Tamil word for temple is koil (Tamil: ). White skinned people of the world are late comers. (2013) describe three scenarios regarding the Peopling of India: According to Gallego Romero et al. GS Paper 1 Syllabus: Indian Culture Source: The Hindu Context: Governor of Tamil Nadu was recently criticised for his views on the Aryan-Dravidian divide. [114][116] In north India, Brihat-samhita by Varhamihira is the widely cited ancient Sanskrit manual from the 6th century describing the design and construction of Nagara-style Hindu temples. The ancestry of the ASI population is suggested to have averaged about three-quarters from the AASI and one quarter from Iranian-related farmers. The temple is built in Dravidian style and occupies an area of 156 acres (631,000 m2).[28]. However, he was bent on finding the truth about the creators of the caste system - The Aryans. Rig-veda, Book 1, Hymn 162, Verse 18 - Ashwamedh Yagna, to honor a horse, after serving the ruler, was being carried out. They were certainly not the Aryans the Conquistadores of the 'A World History' nor the Dravidians, docile little brown men of Van Loon. Dhotis are usually made out of cotton for more everyday use, but the more expensive silk dhotis are used for special functions like festivals and weddings. There are many interesting points raised in your letter, perhaps some others may help us with those. 469654 >>469652 even african 'people' look better than this monster The white race that entered India was called Aryan, because they came via Iran. Because the original meaning of the word Aryan has not been kept pure and there are additional races living in the region, the entire population of northern India cant be characterized as Aryans. [106] Tolkappiyar refers to the Three Crowned Kings as the "Three Glorified by Heaven", (Tamil: , Vpuka Mvar). 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HYDERABAD: The great Indian divide along north-south lines now stands blurred. Thus, the geneticists went to work. The East India Company specially recruited people of such caliber as Max Muller (1847) and Pandit Taranath (1866), to make such translations that would be detrimental to Hindu culture. All the historians belonged to the white race, the Europeans. Dravidian languages are considered to be distinct from those defined as Aryan. David Frawley, a historian, too, expressed his amazement at the 'changing scenario' in the following words: 'There is a vast literature without archeology or even geography (home) for the Vedic Aryans, where as, vast archeology without literature for the literate Harrappans! The term Aryan has its original meaning in sanskrit and old Persian. All that the other three did not do! These elements were incorporated later into Hinduism like the legendary marriage of Shiva to Queen Mntchi who ruled Madurai or Wanji-ko, a god who later merged into Indra. had 4582% Iranian farmer-related ancestry and 1150% AASI (or Andamanese-related hunter-gatherer ancestry). The word Aryans was brutally used by Hitler during world war second to attain exclusion of Jews and other ethnicities from a specific group of Germans. They were fond of horse-racing, chariot-racing, dancing, gambling and wrestling. Or maybe the Sanskrit language originated in the modern civilization of the Indus. These languages are Telugu, Malayali, Kannada and Tamil. According to David McAlpin and his Elamo-Dravidian hypothesis, the Dravidian languages were brought to India by immigration into India from Elam (not to be confused with Eelam), located in present-day southwestern Iran. Early Dravidian influence accounts for several of the innovative traits in Indic better than any internal explanation that has been proposed. The nominative (subject noun) case is not represented by any suffix. This indicates there has been no mix of foreign and local DNA. Thus, the blue-eyed people of Major Yeats-Brown, turned into groups of different blood, all speaking a common tongue, the Mother of all Indo-European languages. Dr Ambedkar's researches into Rigveda conclusively proved that the race of Aryans did not come from outside India. South-Central Dravidian (except Telugu) and Brahui use the first form, *-(n)k(k)a; Central Dravidian and Tulu use the second and third forms; Telugu uses the second alone; and South Dravidian uses the third alone. Webshow no Dravidian ethnic features whatever, and are not easily distinguishable from the other peoples of the region. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. [77] Yet, according to Krishnamurti, Dravidian languages may have reached south India before Indo-Aryan migrations. 'These were white men like Semites, but they spoke a different language, which is regarded as the common ancestor of all European languages with some exceptions'. The numerals 1 to 5 and 8 to 10 consist of one of several roots plus one of three fused neuter morphemes, *t, *tt, or *k, thus *on-tu (roots *r/*or-, *on-) 1; *ir-a-u (*r/*ir-V) 2; *muH-n-tu/*m-n-tu (*muH-/*m-) 3; *nl-n(kk)u (*nl/*nal-V-) 4; *caym-tu (*cay-) 5; *e-u (*e-) 8; *paH-tu (*paH-) 10. The British and the historians had interests, to rule India, as well as, to convert the Indians to Christianity. [73] Parpola led a Finnish team in investigating the inscriptions using computer analysis. [40] There are also hundreds of Dravidian loanwords in Indo-Aryan languages, and vice versa. The word 'caste' has Portuguese, Spanish and Italian origin - casto, casta, castus, and castaway - happen to describe divisions of the society into four main classes, followed by sub-divisions. We don't demand any better! [78] This represents an early religious and cultural fusion[79][note 3] or synthesis[81] between ancient Dravidians and Indo-Aryans. 'Living along the shores of Caspian Sea for many centuries - wandered forth in search of a new home - for many centuries lived among the peaks which surround the plateau of Iran, and that is why we call them Aryans. All other higher numerals are borrowed from Sanskrit. One of the events mentioned in the Mahabharat is Lord Krishna's instructions to his Sarthi, to go to Dwarika to inform the citizens, of the imminent submergence of the city due to rise in sea-level. It is now upto the people of the sub-continent, whether they should fight amongst each other making COLOR an issue, thus, supporting the Divide & Rule policy of their past rulers, indirecly, in your words, the International Aryan League. Specifically, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains and Zoroastrians have a history of using the word Aryan to mean the speaker of a native language. The above information was completely negated by two teams of researchers, American and Indian, stating that , 'the South Indians possesses a distinct genetic pattern not found anywhere else in the world' (India West - Oct 30, 2009). [122] The theatrical culture flourished during the early Sangam age. [96] Early iconography of Murugan[97] and Sivan[98][99][100] and their association with native flora and fauna goes back to the Indus Valley Civilisation. The Egyptian priests used the Hieratic script, where as the common men used Demotic script. Many literary works were composed in Carnatic style and it soon spread wide in the Dravidian regions. The British had representation in India in the form of British East India Co. Now the British, around 1776, had to leave America, they desired to concentrate in India. Demonstrative pronouns represent the gender differences best. He notes that there are two scenarios for the origin and spread of Dravidians. TNN / Sep 25, 2009, 01:16 IST. Re. Dravidian grammatical impact on the structure and syntax of Indo-Aryan languages is considered far greater than the Indo-Aryan grammatical impact on Dravidian. According to Mondal et al. [25], Yelmen et al. There was scarcity of white women, too, resulted in the traffic in women. [23]Genetically, the Ancient Indus Valley people were composed of an Iranian Farmer- Gatherers and Indian Hunter-Gatherers or "First Dravidian languages evolved from Proto-Dravidian language. Dravidians have a different set of ethnic beliefs. The Aryans had no word for brick in their language. Proto-Dravidian *to/*to occurs in compounds with the words for 10, 100, 1,000 as second members with the meaning 1/10th lesscomparable to Tamil to-u 90 (or 10 less 100), toyiram 900 (100 less 1,000), and on-pattu 9 (1 less 10). However, Telugu tom-badi (from *to-pat) 90 implies that *to means 9. The South Dravidian languages have cognates that support the first, 1/10th less, meaning. The Europeans have been looking for a Mother-Tongue in a far-away places instead of at the source. [123] Dance forms such as Bharatanatyam are based on older temple dance forms known as Catir Kacceri, as practised by courtesans and a class of women known as Devadasis.[124]. The most notable Carnatic musician is Purandara Dasa who lived in the court of Krishnadevaraya of the Vijayanagara empire. In the Buddhist Jataka story known as Akiti Jataka there is a mention to Damila-rattha (Tamil dynasty). They built no towns, their agriculture was primitive, the art of writing was unknown to them'. The Dravidian peoples, or Dravidians, are an ethnolinguistic and cultural group living in South Asia who predominantly speak any of the Dravidian languages. Brahmin Dalits tribals all DNA are same. Agatsya Muni was all set, ready to go with his work-force and equipment. In the last century or two, cross-breeding has taken place in the West. The historians wanted to create knowledge credibility for these Illiterates (Frawley's Paradox). [82][80][83][84], Ancient Tamil grammatical works Tolkappiyam, the ten anthologies Pattuppu, and the eight anthologies Euttokai shed light on early ancient Dravidian religion. The object of the AIT was to demean the Indians. I am, perhaps, missing the point, Ben, that you are trying to make, please clarify. Aryan and Dravidian are English words, concocted by the British rulers and their historians, to describe the ancient people of India. It is pointed out that 'the word Aryans was brutally used by Hitler during world war second to attain exclusion of Jews and other ethnicities (2nd para). It is now a general knowledge that the river did exist, supported by the scientific researches, satellite photography and carbon dating etc that have been carried out. Previous literature, however, has focused largely on Dravidians are dark skinned.The Aryans living in India are enjoying the fruits of the skills and knowledge of the Indus peuple who are Dravidians. All these societies and universities spent years in studying various languages of the world to determine the Mother Language as well as the place of its origin. The river had dried up even before the arrival of the Illiterates. It was the first step. This page was last edited on 16 February 2023, at 22:46. There was always to and fro movement of people. Divorce vs. Talaq: What's the difference? The Aryans had no respect for the Indian culture and treated the natives as slaves. Should not the history books be corrected as soon as possible? No wonder Khalistan and Kashmir movement are so popular. [108], The cult of the mother goddess is treated as an indication of a society which venerated femininity. [21], The process of post-Harappan/Dravidian influences on southern India has tentatively been called "Dravidianization",[22] and is reflected in the post-Harappan mixture of IVC and Ancient Ancestral South Indian people. Text-book Revision, where the historians agreed to call, 'migration' in place of 'invasion' of/by the Aryans, amply justified the above saying. [69][70], Yuri Knorozov surmised that the symbols represent a logosyllabic script and suggested, based on computer analysis, an agglutinative Dravidian language as the most likely candidate for the underlying language.
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